WHO CARES WINS
EPISODE 6 l 22 OCT 2020
IS MORE BETTER?
WITH GEORGE MONBIOT, ANDREW MCAFEE, AJA BARBER, JOHN SAUVEN, LISA JACKSON AND MERLIN SHELDRAKE
In this episode of Who Cares Wins, Lily explores how global economic development has both contributed to the climate crisis and, others argue, is helping solve it.
Lily speaks to the thought leaders in sustainability who question relentless economic growth: fashion consultant Aja Barber, director of Greenpeace UK John Sauven, and writer George Monbiot.
Lily also explores the other side of the debate; looking at Lisa Jackson’s work at Apple as a case study of corporate environmental ambition; and speaking with the principal research scientist at MIT Andrew Mcafee, who argues that it is possible to decouple economic growth from environmental impact, and that intense competition and technology (through growth) is already helping us to get “more from less.”
Finally, biologist and author Merlin Sheldrake helps listeners understand the role of growth, cooperation and competition in evolution.
IN CONVERSATION WITH
AJA BARBER
FASHION CONSULTANT
JOHN SAUVEN
DIRECTOR OF GREENPEACE UK
LISA JACKSON
CHEMICAL ENGINEER AND APPLE’S VICE PRESEIDENT OF ENVIRONMENT, POLICY AND SOCIAL INITATIVES
MERLIN SHELDRAKE
BIOLOGIST AND AUTHOR
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